GrapheneOS (and CalyxOS?) and eSIMs

I’m not sure how it works for CalyxOS but with GrapheneOS you need to download their sandboxed Google Play to add an eSIM, does anyone know the privacy considerations of doing this/what Google actually learns etc?

Considering it seems much harder to buy an anonymous physical SIM and the new iPhone doesn’t even have a SIM tray in the US… seems like an issue worth discussing

This is an issue on all Android ROMs because eSIM support on Android is done through a proprietary Google app, it’s not part of the AOSP.

I’m not exactly sure what Google actually collects via this app, but theoretically I’d think they could collect any basic device information that would be accessible to any other app on your device, some network info like your IP address, and any modem/SIM related information like your IMEI, etc.


Man I would like to know if this is why I have spent hours literally 3 hours Friday trying to get a Verizon E-SIM setup on a Pixel 4 XL running CalyxOS Android 13.

I read Usage guide | GrapheneOS

I am getting past the checking network information and scanning the QR code. Following that scan i get the above error. So I wonder now if I am back to a Verizon Problem.

It’s almost definitely a Verizon problem, don’t think this is an error you can fix on your end.

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That sucks! Somewhat related, I had no issues with loading a Mint Mobile eSIM on Calyx. I’m quite happy with their prices, too.

I have a mint sim sitting at the desk. If i could get Mint to esim on the Pixel 4 i would be just as happy. I could not get the Esim from mint months ago.

Ok I just checked and Mint now shows the Pixel 4 XL is compatible. Thanks for the direction.

I had problems with Mint as well. The auth code ended up looking like "$12345-76FQM-F4ET9-GRN0L, a normal code looks like12345-76FQM-F4ET9-GRN0???
I cant recall as it tool three service tech to help me one time I deleted all network settings which was basically forcing me to reconnect to Wi-Fi.

In the end I am set up and happier I have mint on the esim vs verizon on the esim