French justice authorized to activate cameras and microphones on computers and smartphones

It only affects France, but I still find it interesting and important to share. Here’s the link to the 2 articles on the same subject (I suggest you translate them with the Brave translation option or using Deepl): Souriez, vous êtes filmés : la justice désormais autorisée à activer la caméra et le micro de vos ordinateurs et smartphones

Here’s a summary of the article if you don’t want to read the whole thing:

The article discusses the Justice bill currently before the Senate, in particular the controversial Article 3. This article would allow certain magistrates to remotely activate electronic devices, such as computers and smartphones, for real-time tracking purposes, without the owner’s consent.

The Senate adopted Article 3 with a few amendments. Concerning real-time geolocation without consent, the Senate legally limited this practice to offenses punishable by at least 10 years’ imprisonment, whereas the initial text authorized sentences of 5 years. Another amendment adopted allows the extension of preliminary investigation deadlines under certain conditions.

The government defends these practices on the grounds of investigator safety, but opponents, such as the Observatoire des Libertés et du Numérique (OLN), criticize this expansion of surveillance measures and denounce a “security bidding war”. It is pointed out that these remote spying practices are already in use, albeit often informally, through expensive spyware or the installation of devices without the knowledge of the people concerned.

In summary, the Senate approved section 3 of the Justice bill with amendments, authorizing certain remote monitoring practices of electronic devices, prompting mixed reactions about the potential infringements on privacy and individual liberties.


Updated the title to reflect this being posted in the news category. Thanks for sharing along!


This forum has become my number one news source for privacy laws in other countries. These laws are created by very similar humans in similar circumstances. When it happens somewhere else it can very much happen in my country.
It is obvious that we would like to prevent horrible crimes but at what cost.


I hate my government :pensive:

this is truly disturbing. and i would arguue that is not just effecting france. simply because those things tend to echo and other countries will eventually follow.

This is so disappointing :worried: Where will it end?
Does anyone know whether an iPhone in ‘lockdown mode’ can stop this kind of access?

I wish them good luck doing that to a GrapheneOS user. It would take a multimillion dollar exploit chain to achieve something like that.

You’re expecting quite a lot from a company that surrendered their users to China’s government.

iPhone and iOS is like a car, and you can never pop a hood of that car to see what’s going on inside, you can’t rewire new speakers in or do anything that’s a little bit more advanced. But what you can do is to buy their new car!

you better off get a fraday beg.
or maybe even just switch to a dumbphone.

That’s terrible advice.

Telling someone to use a dumb phone or a faraday bag just because it’s legal to use a multimillion dollar exploit chain for investigative purposes in France is just wrong.

its not terrible. its practical.

I don’t like that bill anymore then you. but looking for someone else to blame as an excuse to not do anything about it is not gonna help in any way. if this bill will pass then you have to start considering what can you do given the situation.

You should get familiar with threat modelling.

i am familiar with that. how does threat modeling in any way contradict what i just said?

You don’t know @freddy.92se3 and his threat model, but you suggested him to use a faraday bag or a dumbphone.