Wondering if anyone here is a Discover Card customer…and if so, if you’ve signed up for the “online privacy protection”?
The pitch is that they will go to data brokers and get your info removed. This is a “free” service as a Discover card customer. However, they require that you enable it via the mobile app…can’t do it via web browser.
On it’s face, it seems like a nice service…maybe they do it because it helps keep their customers in less risk of getting their data hijacked…so it’s a win win? Or is there any hidden nefarious reason why they would offer this…something in the fine print that gives them access to act on your behalf?
Discover in house fraud protection has worked well for me. I do wish they had better 2FA options. I also posted how I handled the security settings in discover. I am phone centric, but I only check my emails at specific times, no notifications.
My risk level seems low to hand over, more information to a third party. I just unfroze my credit to apply for couple major credit cards. I have a window to do some work and then I am freezing my credit. My point is you can probably reduce your risk negating the need for more protection.
There’s also the benefit of Discover providing a similar benefit of DeleteMe in that they will request for your personal information to be taken down from the people tracking sites. It could be a good way to get that done for yourself while not handing your data over to another third party. I guess Discover could also just be working with a third party to provide this benefit, but in that case Discover is also putting their name on the line, so I would hope it’s a somewhat reputable company. I would have to do more digging.
Without ignoring denying or admitting what you’re saying about whether or not I am a customer which I will not say publicly either way… I will tell you this that indeed any other third party trying to say they’re going to go remove other third party data on me is already unstable and untrustworthy… I say this not to be a jerk… I say this because I used “ABine delete me…” the free pdf they give you, … a couple years back… and then I perform my own checks on my own self on my own data and I look at all the ways it can be reversed engineered …and I’ve studied it very carefully… and I’ve seen a lot of corollaries of abuse… but for the most part I’m gone!
… and again with all respect to privacy here… I happen to have a relative with my same name who is dead… and all roads on Google Now lead to a dead man with my same name… and I’m very happy about this… and in fact… I have inadvertantly done such a good job of opsec past several years that even a residence that I own …the postal workers have no idea who lives there for several years … save a few folks i know personally, that i am not threatened by , know i live where i seem to… per se.
So you think these 3rd party data deletion services are unstable/untrustworthy and can be abused…but a few years ago you used one and it by and large did get your data removed?
I guess…am I correct in interpreting that you would not use the service again?
What would be one way the 3rd party acting on your behave could abuse the situation?
As I understand the Abine DeleteMe guide available on .pdf was used as a guide to self opt-out.
My experience is to continue to use the paid service. Others have said that they have had great success reducing the websites down to a manageable amount which they decided to stop using DeleteMe and follow DeleteMe and other guides to opt-out.
My history as old as it is seems to continue to haunt me. DeleteMe continues to add and remove websites which they monitor. The regular WhitePages, ThatsThem and MyLife… worst offenders continue to repopulate my PII which I gladly pay DeleteMe to handle.
I do understand that using DeleteMe other service IronVest in particular builds a honey pot. My use case with IronVest, masked cards, emails, phone number etc is for everyday normal use. As in yes it could be a honey pot of very mundane activities. Yes I have things to hide and I do not use IronVest for those activities.
My efforts mirrors Evolvingprivacytrend as in working on obscuring the connection between known PII history and my current PII. Constantly I tell young people to work on privacy, fixing your mistakes from 20 years ago is agony.
I used the guide abine delete me gives freely, for diy. It’s not that I don’t trust the service, I’m just not going to give 'em enough rope to hang me.
… the first abuse that can happen is the fact that you would entrust somebody like discover or even delete me for that matter enough to permit them to browse the internet on one’s behalf and collect data on your behalf under the auspice that they will not fall themselves to later corruption…
…remember wasn’t Facebook all chummy in 2008 …weren’t these great tools for Amazon too? Ya know… all there to help you shop better all there to help you get what you want? Back then it was products and exposure to your friends… now they’re trying to sell you privacy? my behimd they are… So do you think for a second this propensity to pimp another chump stoooge out as a product is gonna magically dissipate? As in the saying goes : if it’s free you’re the product…
I’m not advocating hypervigilance OCD or mental health problems as a result of Suspicion paranoia and delusionality.no… after all creating a mentally ill population is also part of the chilling effect and social engineering which is exactly what they want and by then I mean the power Brokers and I’ll leave that to anybody’s own private value system as to how they arrive at who the real culprits are, and definitely it’s up to individual to choose to do what they want to do about it. I have no say in that matter
… rather I am just stating my own opinion about how I handle my own privacy matters… and I respect anybody on a genuine privacy journey… if that is you then I absolutely do wish you the best for navigating and finding out how you have been hacked and what you can do about it… but similar to threat models it’s very personal on what somebody perceives as a threat and perceives as their own sense of security without having a false sense of security…
In some respects the Privacy journey is simply by its nature of necessity to be a hard road to hoe with a lot of do-it-yourself type of stuff… in other words to task out or to delegate is already putting a variable in there that come back and get you… human nature betrayal deceit mutinizing commandeering and so forth is exactly the type of behavior that has relegated itself to land most people in a highly compromised environment of personal information… so I respect the headache one takes on to pursue privacy…
I say this also about the mission of tech law to educate people one at a time and then eventually advocate for change in either policy and or technology itself to mitigate these violations which are the necessary life blood of a totalitarian police state… because if they cannot track and surveil they cannot police and if they cannot police and they cannot descend Humanity into automata which is exactly what is required for mandatory compliant behavior and enforced behavioral modification through deprivations
My end goal is not to need DeleteMe. Subcontracting what I can so I can focus on what I can not pay someone to do. Hopefully I can accomplish my goals before distrust issues arise.
I assume a lot of people use DeleteMe for a short amount of time. They get a report, then determine if they can manage themselves or continue to pay for their services. The same could be done with Discover Protection.